Nothing spoils a positive ownership experience more than bringing your car to a dealer and finding out that you need to spend a whopping amount of money for routine service. This practice is one we have seen firsthand many times in the past, but what makes this situation unusual are two factors. First, this is a Hyundai Ioniq 5 vehicle, which has three years and 36,000 miles of service included, and second, this is a battery-electric vehicle.
We won’t name the individual who offered us the top-of-page image for our use in the story, nor will we name the dealership. We will only say it is a U.S. dealer, and we have looked closely at the owner’s post history in the Hyundai social media club, where this was first discussed, and the history indicates this is not a fabricated account. The person who posted this is a Top Contributor and has made many posts with information on owning the Ioniq 5 over many months. Here’s what the person posted unedited, except for grammar.
I took my 22 Ioniq 5 with 28,000 miles, bought in July of 2022, for a tire rotation for 5,000 miles. It's actually been 8000 miles since the last one. The dealer surprised me with a service quote for $600. When I mentioned that the car is still under 36k miles and less than three years old, the dealer agreed to do the tire rotation and do an overall check for no fee and told me, “This is the last free one.” I was also told they will do two recalls. Am I supposed to pay $600 for every service call at every 10k miles from now onwards?
As you can see, the pushback from this Hyundai Ioniq 5 owner resulted in a resolution of the outrageous price quote - this time. But is this fair? Look at the things listed on the work order. Are these legit for any EV, never mind a high-quality one such as the outstanding Ioniq 5?
-Replace Coolant
-Inspect the exhaust pipes and mounting
-Check and replenish all fluids
-Inspect the power steering fluid
What power steering fluid? There is no power steering fluid in any modern Hyundai, even the ICE models. And why would anyone replace the coolant in any vehicle at 28,000 miles? The exhaust pipe thing is comical, but also enraging. Exhaust systems are part of the emission control system in ICE vehicles, and it is mandated under law to be under warranty well past this point in the vehicle’s service history. Of course, EVs have no exhaust system.
Stepping back from the crazy list of things that EVs don’t even have, would this price be legitimate even if all that work was done? It’s 45 minutes of work tops, and maybe $100 in materials.
Ioniq 5 Owners Cry Out For Justice
Here are some comments that owners offered in support of this owner.
- "Find a new dealership, fast."
- "That’s highway robbery."
- "They were swinging for the fences on this one"
- "Ugh, what?!"
- "I took my 2023 in for recalls and the service message. They tried selling me a service. When I pushed back, they admitted it only required an air cabin filter and tire rotation. They wanted $125 for the air cabin filter, which I got for $20 at an auto parts store, and taught my 15-year-old daughter how to replace it in under two minutes. Most tire shops will do it for $60 if you’re not handy. Dealers make their money on service, and most inflate their prices. That dealer’s service list is a joke. Exhaust! Coolant!"
30K and 60K Service Rip-Offs
Torque News contributors have seen such dealer quotes in the past, unfortunately, first-hand. I myself once was quoted a crazy price for a service interval that included “transmission flush” for a vehicle that specifically had no transmission serviceability. When I pressed, the service advisor said, “We still charge for it.” I was out the door quickly and never went back.
Not All Dealers Are Bad
By contrast to this owner's experience, other dealers have offered your author and his family very reasonable prices. One Subaru dealer refused to do any work early, saying the dealership had a firm policy not to do unnecessary work. My family has used a Metro Boston Hyundai dealer for years and has always felt that the work was outstanding and the value was very high. We were not quoted any work that was out of the ordinary for the model. Please don’t read into this story that we feel Hyundai dealers are bad. Check out our story on this topic titled "30K Service Rip-Off - Why A Mazda CX-5’s 30K Service Can Cost Half What A Similar Crossover’s Does."
Tires And Brakes
So, what service is legit at certain intervals? Tire wear is more rapid with most EVs. Rotating tires every 5,000 miles is always a good idea. Since EVs use regenerative braking, pad and rotor wear are often minimal. However, brake fluid changes every three years, and brake cleaning and lubrication (with appropriate brake chemicals) is a wise preventative measure to help reduce the chance of a frozen caliper or moisture contamination of brake fluid. Many inspections are also legit, but they should never cost more than $150 to perform.
Cabin air filters are a real maintenance item, but as some owners point out, they can be changed by the owner with no tools in under three minutes using parts sourced from your dealer’s parts counter or online. A cabin air filter change should cost under $30, but many dealers charge up to $100 for the service.
Your Manual Has All You Need To Know
Don't trust dealers to tell you what you need. If your vehicle is still under its included maintenance period, pay nothing. If extra services are suggested, ask where in the manual they are mandated. Only do work that the manual specifically says is needed. We also recommend finding a trusted local mechanic once your included maintenance period is up.
Have you experienced dealer shenanigans such as these? If so, please tell us in the comments so that other owners can be forewarned.
Top of page image used with permission of the owner. Image of Hyundai service area by John Goreham.
John Goreham is a long-standing member of the New England Motor Press Association and an expert vehicle tester. John completed an engineering program with a focus on electric vehicles, followed by two decades of work in high-tech, biopharma, and the automotive supply chain before becoming a news contributor. He is a member of the Society of Automotive Engineers (SAE int). In addition to his eleven years of work at Torque News, John has published thousands of articles and reviews at American news outlets. He is known for offering unfiltered opinions on vehicle topics. You can connect with John on LinkedIn and follow his work on his personal X channel or on our X channel. Please note that stories carrying John's by-line are never AI-generated, but he does employ grammar and punctuation software when proofreading and he also uses image generation tools.
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Maintenance-free...another…
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Maintenance-free...another EV myth, isn't it? Who's falling for this pablum?
Did you actually read the…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
Did you actually read the article? The dealer was trying to rip him off, $600 in maintenance every 10k is NOT necessary on any EV or ICE vehicle for that matter. I own an EV and a PHEV and while the EV isn’t maintenance free (it needs tire rotations, cabin air filter replacements, washes/wax, and eventually will need a coolant exchange, new tires, wipers, and new 12v battery, it requires FAR LESS maintenance than my PHEV and any ICE vehicle I’ve ever owned. Nothing is maintenance free, but an EV is pretty damn close, especially compared to ICE vehicles and my PHEV.
Yeah, I read the article. It…
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In reply to Did you actually read the… by Jim (not verified)
Yeah, I read the article.
It's an egregious attempt at overcharging a customer, by a dealership (actually all of Hyundai's dealerships are like this) for services NOT rendered!
In layman's terms, it's called FRAUD !
What SHOULD happen, is when presented with a bill for service points that aren't even applicable to your vehicle, you should be able to call the local police, and file charges of fraud against the dealership! Every time !
I had my Hyundai service people , when I took my vehicle in for TSB work under warranty, hand me a bill for the " keyed vehicle security update" and they supposedly did the "software update " to make my vehicle safe from the round of carjackings when Hyundai and Kia cars were being stolen right and left. Problem is... My vehicle has keyless ignition, and there is no update for it. But the stealership put it on the bill so they could get reimbursed by Hyundai corporate for ALL THE WORK they didn't really do! Like I said FRAUD ! And Fraud costs us all !
My 2019 Kia Niro has never…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
My 2019 Kia Niro has never had service after them bugging me by emails and texts. Over 100k on the vehicle now. I did get service for warranty related items over the years and all those lubrication and inspections were done. The have a EV service for $159 Canadian which I'll probably do. Vehicle runs great, my motor was replaced in the begining because of humming noise which affected the new models.
I have a 22 bolt EUV, put…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
I have a 22 bolt EUV, put 94k miles on it, and the only maintenance I've done is new tires twice, a few free inspections, cabin filter.
Thanks for adding this,…
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In reply to I have a 22 bolt EUV, put… by Jason (not verified)
Thanks for adding this, Jason. What tires do you prefer? Did you stick with the self-seal type?
No machine built by humans…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
No machine built by humans is ever truly maintenance free. And no matter what vehicle you take in to a dealer it's always going to be expensive. I've had my EV for 100,000 miles or 4 years and I spent less than four grand on maintenance including tires and brakes. I just had 100,000 miles service done. What they mean when they say maintenance free is no oil change, no tune-ups. Not that you can drive an infinite number of miles without putting any maintenance into it.
Well said, David. What I…
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In reply to No machine built by humans… by David M Long (not verified)
Well said, David. What I like about your comment is the honesty. You include tires and brakes, which EVs do require over 100,000 miles. Thank you for adding this.
Someone who didn't actually…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
Someone who didn't actually read the article and commented based on the click bait headline? No surprise there.
I actually had Tesla service do my cabin air filter replacement for me after watching the videos of how to do it on my model 3. Unlike most cars where its a simple "drop the glove box" process, you have to disassemble the passenger side of the center console. They came and did it for me at my house for $70 (35 each for the filter and the service). We'll worth it to me to not have to be crawling upside down on the floor for an hour.
Nothing to do with…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
Nothing to do with maintenance requirements of any EV. It is just a rotten dealership system going all out to rob you. Eventually this dealership model will collapse because EV doesn't need much maintenance. Another reason why Tesla is doing the right thing with "direct sale + services" model
Check the owners manual for…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
Check the owners manual for maintenance schedules. Dealerships and techs upsell for added profit and paycheck. What they recommend is not always right.
I was a business owner for…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
I was a business owner for my entire working life. I come from 2 generations of business owners.
One of the divisions i personally started in my family business was an equipment dealership.
In the run up to starting this business, I talked with corporate franchisers with the company fir which i woulx be a dealer.
They told me 70% of my revenue and most of my profit would come from my repair shop, either through warranty and required service work or repairs for out of warranty repairs.
They told me this figure was true for all dealerships, including car dealers.
In my business contacts over the years i have discussed this with car dealership owners and other executives....they have confirmed this, with scheduled service work being a very big profit center for them.
Did any of you really think these folks would give up that kind of profit, regardless of what kind of engine a car has?
How exactly do you inspect…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
How exactly do you inspect the exhaust pipes on an EV!?!
I own a ioniq 6 and the…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
I own a ioniq 6 and the dealer been exemplary here.
45$ canadian (so about 30$ usd) for air filter change the second time I gone do a maintenance (32k miles) plus 50$ tire rotation and 25$ for a quick check up of brakes (they needed to lift it and remove tires to do a good check) first time I gone see them it only cost me the tire rotation.
Changing coolants on an ev cost a lots more than ICE car as there is a lots more to purge and replenish but it not needed until you reach 120k miles or 10 years of ownership.
Someone didn't read the…
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In reply to Maintenance-free...another… by Buzz Wired (not verified)
Someone didn't read the article haha
I pointed out to the…
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I pointed out to the dealership that they are wrong to charge for emission inspection as there are no emissions.
They apologized and refunded car inspection fee.
The problem with the hyundai…
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The problem with the hyundai and kia ev vehicles is
So looking at the picture of…
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So looking at the picture of what he was quoted
- brake service - each axle 150 = 300
- coolant flush - 150
- brake flush - 100
- wipers - 40
- cabin filter - 60
- fob battery - 15
Sorry but that's a lot more than just coolant flush at $600 and different inspections as was initally stated. All those on the list are definitely wearable items and based upon the average cost in my area that I put the pricing for, $600 for all that is not unreasonable.
Also, I've had many EV techs let me know the coolant should be changed every 2 years, more important that regular gas car since electrolysis is more prone to happen and scale build up grows quicker and the coolant becomes more acidic.
I'll never believe the no maintenance as I'd rather my cars last longer than what the average ppl deciding to do no maintenance and just keep switching to new cars.
It's not EV versus non-EV…
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It's not EV versus non-EV. This is a Hyundai service center issue, and it's not rare. My mom's Kona had an absolute nightmare situation, where the maintenance crew cut electrical cables during one of these routine maintenances.
It took months to resolve it between the insurance company and Hyundai.
This is single-handedly the biggest thing holding the company back. I don't buy a Genesis because I know I'd have to take it into one of these places for service. Stay away!
Andrew, I'm with you…
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In reply to It's not EV versus non-EV… by Andrew (not verified)
Andrew, I'm with you. Hyundai includes maintenance for a period longer than the owner in the story has had the vehicle. So, there should be no charge, EV or non-EV. Right?
Should have bought a Tesla. …
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Should have bought a Tesla.
My 2022 Tesla Model 3 has almost 40k miles with maintenance. I still have the same tires.
You didn't think it was…
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You didn't think it was maintenance free. If you did that's on you.
This is a BS article.
IDK Hyundai Ioniq…
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IDK Hyundai Ioniq requirements, but our Subaru service interval is 5k mi, and shortly after 5.2k, there started to be Android Update style malfunctions, like screen darkening or shutting off.
Magically, after service, everything went back to tip top shape...
We got the maintenance pkg. because getting it plus full ceramic (my idea because white), it lowered our lease by $43.
It's in the manual and only rotating tires, checking fluid levels at 5k. At 20k, it's replacing cabin air filter, located in the passenger door, requiring partial door disassembly.
No thanks. Breaking even at best on maintenance costs with pkg., but the ceramic was my goal and the $1300 job ended up only costing dollars if anything.
The EV has fluids and likely dealerships only have software that includes a basic service and it includes trans. fluid because it's generic.
I would change dealerships to one that differentiates.
Dealerships scamming people?…
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Dealerships scamming people? Shocker!
This is what happens when…
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This is what happens when you take an industry built on parts and service, then upend it with a merit-based product offering. EVs require less parts and maintenance after-sale and one of the larger struggles brought on by Tesla, was getting the auto industry to actually innovate a good product without focusing on how to extract the most after-sale dollars (their livelihood). I feel this writer encountered one tactic - rip off unexpected owners. It's not new. I once had a dealer tell me the torque converter in my manual car was bad and needed to be replaced. It was 5k before warranty expiration and they were trying not to cover it. For those that don't know, torque converters are solely used in automatics, not sticks ... But they wrote the service order anyway. I corrected them and they insisted, so I printed out the service manual teardown of the manual and played where's waldo with the service rep before promptly escalating to the regional manager.
Sucks Hyundai is trying to get one by you. Sucks even more that it's a thing.
The items listed for $599…
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The items listed for $599 would maybe take an hour at best. Absolutely ridiculous pricing.
My guess is that this dealership is banking on the fact that EV buyers have more cash on hand to blow on these services.
The article makes a great point though: EVs are supposed to free us from the high costs of maintenance generally associated with ICE vehicles. Classic bait and switch.
It is up to you to learn…
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It is up to you to learn about your specific car and what it needs. The sevice department wants.to milk you. These preprinted forms that are issued with recs, have words that refer to most cars. Half of what gets done to cars is not needed. They use fear to get you to ok work to be done. I have a 2022 Ioniq5 also. They have 22 volt battery chrging issues. Covered by warranty.
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Just don’t bring your EV’s for this ‘regular maintenance’, it doesn’t need it, trust me! This is the car producer and your ‘local’ dealership marketing scam! Tesla doesn’t even have this BS, they do updates for free over the air, and you only bring it in if it’s really broken. 5k service for an EV is ridiculous, it doesn’t even have oil! Do a $50 tire rotation at a local shop every 10k, and you’ll be fine! I have a Chevy Bolt EUV, and I did bring it in for the first free 7.5k service, and they just rotated tires and checked ‘engine liquids’ :))) Then, I read the service protocol in my manual, and next time I’ll see them at 45k for a ‘major’ maintenance. I swap summer/winter tires for the season, costs me $60 at Walmart, and the automatically rotate them. I bought lifetime wheel alignment at Firestone ($199), and tires balancing at Pep Boys ($80 for all 4). At 22.5k I’ll replace my cabin filter AND wiper blades (original GM ACDelco, $100 at Amazon for all). I top off wiper fluid when it’s empty. That’s all my maintenance, the rest is under warranty :)
I have never paid for a tire…
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I have never paid for a tire rotation. Even when I've expected a fee at Les Schwab because I didn't have tires from them I was told "no charge, just buy tires from us next time" I've also found local independent tire shops to have great prices compared to the "big guys".
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With EVs not needing that much service work done anymore you will see dealers trying to make up bogus work orders to keep these dealerships open!
Suggest finding a 3rd party service and repair company to get these basic services done OR see if you can do it yourself (after your service warranty expires).
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